In this episode of the Good Insights podcast, Danny Mucinskas interviews Nick Haisman-Smith, the Executive Director and Co-Founder of the Institute for Social and Emotional Learning. Nick discusses his journey from teaching to co-founding the Institute and highlights the importance of proactive and systemic approaches to social and emotional learning (SEL) in schools. The conversation covers SEL competencies, the importance of cultural sensitivity in conducting this type of work, and how to create supportive environments for both students and educators. Connecting with The Good Project’s framework of “good work,” Nick emphasizes that SEL is integral to achieving excellence, fostering ethical decision-making, and maintaining engagement. The pair conclude by thinking about their hopes for the wider effects of SEL on the world.
The Power of SEL
Insights from Nick Haisman-Smith of the Institute for Social and Emotional Learning
May 20, 2025

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Welcome to the Good Insights podcast.
The work we do–whether as students, professionals, volunteers, or family members–is a big part of how we spend our lives. At The Good Project, we have investigated the meaning of “good work” through research and believe that work should be high-quality, meaningful, and impactful.
In this podcast, we'll explore how various individuals and their organizations understand work that is excellent, ethical, and engaging. Join us as we host conversations with scholars and practitioners who will prompt us to think in new ways about work, today and in the future.
You might be a leader seeking to create a thriving work culture, or an advocate for change and social responsibility, or simply want to know how experts think about doing “good.” The Good Work podcast will provide you with new ideas and strategies to do your work well, whatever you do.
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